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For this week, I think we should talk about the box office, starting with the marvels. The marvels had a budget of$274 million. Before we continue though. I want to point out that. The production expenses for the marvels may have been 274 million, but it was, it was reduced to 219 million after a government subsidiary. Subsidy. Oh God, I don't even know if I'm pronouncing that right, but they got a 50. They got a 55 million tax break from the UK government. So that, you know, that reduce their budget to two 19, although they did spend 274. On that budget, they only made$197 million. The question then begins. On that budget. They only made 197 million, which begs the question. Was the marvels of flop. Now here's the thing. I don't think it's that simple. The marvels may have been a flop at the box office. There's no denying that. But it's hard to quantify the negative impact. You know, the strike hat on the film, because all these artists weren't able to promote their stuff. I'll give you an example. you have, what's it called a soca, a soca put out a bunch of cool clips. I thought were really fun. And a lot of them went kind of viral on social media. You're naive to think that if near the Costa, who is the director, Brie Larson, who is probably the happiest. Marvel actor you have out there all. I forgot the name of the actress who plays Monica Rambo, but she couldn't promote it. All these people couldn't promote their own films. They couldn't go on Jimmy Fallon or Kimmel or. Or do press tours. To get people to want to see it. I know Imaan Valani. Alani alone has one, a lot of people over with how hype she's been for Marvel in general. Like her little arguments with Kevin FYGI about what university MCU has said in 6 1 6 or. Whatever. She said. It matters. You know, I don't know if it would have given them like 500 more million, but I think they would've probably made a profit. So in that sense, It's unfair to judge this film on the box office. No one could say one word. I will, the projects that we're working on and the strike went on for a while, so they couldn't even do any promotion. Leading up to the film after the film came out, there's nothing to cast for. The marvels could have done. I went to go see fan expo. And Zachary Levi was doing a, a talk. He couldn't say anything about anything he worked on, he was dancing around each. Project. Like he literally cannot say any words connected to something he's been in. That's how serious the strike was. So, yeah, the marvels may have flopped at the box office, but there was external factors that was beyond their control. I really hope we get to see this crew again. They were good. It was a good film. You know, it was a fun superhero film. It wasn't that serious. It wasn't that. Like it wasn't one of those. How do I put this? There's a tear of films of superhero films that I think belong in like a. Category where, you know, they could win awards. The high tier of superhero films. You got your login's. You got your infinity wars. across the spider verse. into the spider verse, all those animated films. The gold standard of superhero films. Did I think the marvels. We're in that tier. No, I don't, but not every movie should be in that two tier because we want to experience different kinds of films. Sometimes we just want to go to the film, have a good time. Don't have to think too hard. There's value in that. Although I think the budgets for these films need to come down because 274 million is ridiculous for a budget. And. Like, even though it dropped a two 19 because of the tax break from the UK government, that's still ridiculous. They spent 270. Okay. Again, you know what I also, I think matters to is COVID. This film was done during COVID. And I think, I think COVID is the reason the MCs kind of in shambles too, not the main reason, but I think it's a factor, like the whole thing. The delay in those two years because of COVID. Now we're stuff had to, uh, Movies couldn't come out because people couldn't go into theaters. The production on film and TV had to get delayed because people couldn't be onset. I think that. Through the whole universe into disarray. Because the order that they originally planned, all these things to come out was just kind of thrown all out there. The whole thing was messed up. The timelines are all over the place. I shouldn't say through the whole university. Like I said was a factor. I also think with superhero films in general. If they want to succeed at the box office, they're going to have to do a little more. That market's been diluted and people are getting a little. Tired of it. To sum up the marvels was a good time. they had an uphill climb to make. Then unfortunately they didn't make it sucks. I want those people to succeed. They all seem like great people, Nita, Costa alone. That's another thing I totally forgot. She did a bunch of interviews where she talked about how she got all this inspiration from video games. They went viral. People love to share to say about all these games, final fantasy Zelda. That alone would have brought people to the box office. But it's too late. Now the interviews are just coming out. The film's already been out for months. Like it's too late. It's over. Sorry. Ah, it's just really too bad. Another film that I think suffered from the same external factors as the marvels. Was killers of the flower moon, the latest Martin Scorsese film. That film. Was. Supposed to be in production around. COVID just like the marvels that got pushed back, all these delays and stuff. and the same thing with the marvels when colors or the flower moon came out. They couldn't do any press for the film. Cause, you know, every time like a big director has to do press for film, he just bashes the MCU or the CBMS, and then people get a whole riled up. And then the interview circulates all throughout the internet. It's like clockwork. Every director has to bash a CBM when he has a movie coming out. So killers of the flower moon had a budget of 200 million. Now it's not fair to compare the budgets of these two films, because obviously the marvels had way more visual work that had to get done, like CGI via fax stuff like that. But still it was a high budget. They had big name actors. Leonardo DiCaprio, Robert DeNiro. Obviously Martin SCRA says he commands a big dollar. So yeah, 200 million for the budget of killers of the flower moon. And then the box office was only 154 million. That's gotta be his like worse performing films ever. Now let's compare the rotten tomatoes of these two films. I'm not here to tell you which one is better. I haven't seen colors of the far moon. It's three and a half hours. It's not for me. I'm sure it's a better quality film. But I just, I'm not interested in seeing it, but I have seen the Marvel. I'm, I'm refraining from judgment on the quality of these films. So we have the marvels had. 61% critic score on rotten tomatoes and an 82% users user score. While kilo's or the flower moon, not surprisingly did 93 run tomato score for critics. And was pretty close with the marvels. With a 84% user score. So both these films were okay. They probably could have at least had 400 million. Now that I think of it. Yeah. It's tough when you have a three. And a half hour film. The marvels on the other hand was only an hour and 45 minutes. So it was a lot more tight. Which I think. The thumb suffered because of that short runtime. yeah, let me know what you think. Do you think that these films suffered because of the external factors that I have mentioned are, do you think they just weren't good enough? I don't know. I can't tell you that. I, I definitely think there you can't deny that there is money to be had during these press tours that they lost at the box office. Okay. There's no denying that. I think the question is how much, how much did they lose as a result of that? How much did the film suffer as a result of COVID? I know COVID is long gone, but these films take a few years. They were happening during COVID. Let me know in the comments, what you think. Can't wait to read it.